diff --git a/piker/fsp/_volume.py b/piker/fsp/_volume.py
index 7cf7d7b4..e4928dd1 100644
--- a/piker/fsp/_volume.py
+++ b/piker/fsp/_volume.py
@@ -108,7 +108,6 @@ async def tina_vwap(
 
 @fsp(
     outputs=('dolla_vlm', 'dark_vlm'),
-    ohlc=False,
     curve_style='step',
 )
 async def dolla_vlm(
@@ -132,14 +131,24 @@ async def dolla_vlm(
     v = a['volume']
 
     # on first iteration yield history
-    yield chl3 * v
+    yield {
+        'dolla_vlm': chl3 * v,
+        'dark_vlm': None,
+    }
 
     i = ohlcv.index
     output = vlm = 0
     dvlm = 0
 
     async for quote in source:
-        for tick in iterticks(quote):
+        for tick in iterticks(
+            quote,
+            types=(
+                'trade',
+                'dark_trade',
+            ),
+            deduplicate_darks=True,
+        ):
 
             # this computes tick-by-tick weightings from here forward
             size = tick['size']
@@ -156,13 +165,15 @@ async def dolla_vlm(
             # is reported in the sym info.
 
             ttype = tick.get('type')
+
             if ttype == 'dark_trade':
-                print(f'dark_trade: {tick}')
+                # print(f'dark_trade: {tick}')
                 key = 'dark_vlm'
                 dvlm += price * size
                 output = dvlm
 
             else:
+                # print(f'vlm: {tick}')
                 key = 'dolla_vlm'
                 vlm += price * size
                 output = vlm
@@ -175,3 +186,41 @@ async def dolla_vlm(
             # print(f' tinal vlm: {tina_lvlm}')
 
             yield key, output
+
+
+@fsp(
+    outputs=(
+        '1m_trade_rate',
+        '1m_vlm_rate',
+    ),
+    curve_style='step',
+)
+async def flow_rates(
+    source: AsyncReceiver[dict],
+    ohlcv: ShmArray,  # OHLC sampled history
+
+) -> AsyncIterator[
+    tuple[str, Union[np.ndarray, float]],
+]:
+    # generally no history available prior to real-time calcs
+    yield {
+        '1m_trade_rate': None,
+        '1m_vlm_rate': None,
+    }
+
+    ltr = 0
+    lvr = 0
+    async for quote in source:
+        if quote:
+
+            tr = quote['tradeRate'],
+            if tr != ltr:
+                print(f'trade rate: {tr}')
+                yield '1m_trade_rate', tr
+                ltr = tr
+
+            vr = quote['volumeRate'],
+            if vr != lvr:
+                print(f'vlm rate: {tr}')
+                yield '1m_vlm_rate', tr
+                ltr = tr