diff --git a/tests/test_ringd.py b/tests/test_ringd.py
index 6ce71333..40040a43 100644
--- a/tests/test_ringd.py
+++ b/tests/test_ringd.py
@@ -1,9 +1,14 @@
 import trio
 import tractor
+import msgspec
 
 from tractor.ipc import (
-    attach_to_ringbuf_rchannel,
-    attach_to_ringbuf_schannel
+    attach_to_ringbuf_receiver,
+    attach_to_ringbuf_sender
+)
+from tractor.ipc._ringbuf._pubsub import (
+    open_ringbuf_publisher,
+    open_ringbuf_subscriber
 )
 
 import tractor.ipc._ringbuf._ringd as ringd
@@ -20,7 +25,7 @@ async def recv_child(
     async with (
         ringd.open_ringbuf(ring_name) as token,
 
-        attach_to_ringbuf_rchannel(token) as chan,
+        attach_to_ringbuf_receiver(token) as chan,
     ):
         await ctx.started()
         async for msg in chan:
@@ -35,7 +40,7 @@ async def send_child(
     async with (
         ringd.open_ringbuf(ring_name) as token,
 
-        attach_to_ringbuf_schannel(token) as chan,
+        attach_to_ringbuf_sender(token) as chan,
     ):
         await ctx.started()
         for i in range(100):
@@ -45,6 +50,13 @@ async def send_child(
 
 
 def test_ringd():
+    '''
+    Spawn ringd actor and two childs that access same ringbuf through ringd.
+
+    Both will use `ringd.open_ringbuf` to allocate the ringbuf, then attach to
+    them as sender and receiver.
+
+    '''
     async def main():
         async with (
             tractor.open_nursery() as an,
@@ -73,9 +85,194 @@ def test_ringd():
                     ring_name='ring'
                 ) as (sctx, _),
             ):
-                await rctx.wait_for_result()
-                await sctx.wait_for_result()
+                ...
 
             await an.cancel()
 
     trio.run(main)
+
+
+# class Struct(msgspec.Struct):
+# 
+#     def encode(self) -> bytes:
+#         return msgspec.msgpack.encode(self)
+# 
+# 
+# class AddChannelMsg(Struct, frozen=True, tag=True):
+#     name: str
+# 
+# 
+# class RemoveChannelMsg(Struct, frozen=True, tag=True):
+#     name: str
+# 
+# 
+# class RangeMsg(Struct, frozen=True, tag=True):
+#     start: int
+#     end: int
+# 
+# 
+# ControlMessages = AddChannelMsg | RemoveChannelMsg | RangeMsg
+# 
+# 
+# @tractor.context
+# async def subscriber_child(ctx: tractor.Context):
+#     await ctx.started()
+#     async with (
+#         open_ringbuf_subscriber(guarantee_order=True) as subs,
+#         trio.open_nursery() as n,
+#         ctx.open_stream() as stream
+#     ):
+#         range_msg = None
+#         range_event = trio.Event()
+#         range_scope = trio.CancelScope()
+# 
+#         async def _control_listen_task():
+#             nonlocal range_msg, range_event
+#             async for msg in stream:
+#                 msg = msgspec.msgpack.decode(msg, type=ControlMessages)
+#                 match msg:
+#                     case AddChannelMsg():
+#                         await subs.add_channel(msg.name, must_exist=False)
+# 
+#                     case RemoveChannelMsg():
+#                         await subs.remove_channel(msg.name)
+# 
+#                     case RangeMsg():
+#                         range_msg = msg
+#                         range_event.set()
+# 
+#                 await stream.send(b'ack')
+# 
+#             range_scope.cancel()
+# 
+#         n.start_soon(_control_listen_task)
+# 
+#         with range_scope:
+#             while True:
+#                 await range_event.wait()
+#                 range_event = trio.Event()
+#                 for i in range(range_msg.start, range_msg.end):
+#                     recv = int.from_bytes(await subs.receive())
+#                     # if recv != i:
+#                     #     raise AssertionError(
+#                     #         f'received: {recv} expected: {i}'
+#                     #     )
+# 
+#                     log.info(f'received: {recv} expected: {i}')
+# 
+#                 await stream.send(b'valid range')
+#                 log.info('FINISHED RANGE')
+# 
+#     log.info('subscriber exit')
+# 
+# 
+# @tractor.context
+# async def publisher_child(ctx: tractor.Context):
+#     await ctx.started()
+#     async with (
+#         open_ringbuf_publisher(batch_size=1, guarantee_order=True) as pub,
+#         ctx.open_stream() as stream
+#     ):
+#         abs_index = 0
+#         async for msg in stream:
+#             msg = msgspec.msgpack.decode(msg, type=ControlMessages)
+#             match msg:
+#                 case AddChannelMsg():
+#                     await pub.add_channel(msg.name, must_exist=True)
+# 
+#                 case RemoveChannelMsg():
+#                     await pub.remove_channel(msg.name)
+# 
+#                 case RangeMsg():
+#                     for i in range(msg.start, msg.end):
+#                         await pub.send(i.to_bytes(4))
+#                         log.info(f'sent {i}, index: {abs_index}')
+#                         abs_index += 1
+# 
+#             await stream.send(b'ack')
+# 
+#     log.info('publisher exit')
+# 
+# 
+# 
+# def test_pubsub():
+#     '''
+#     Spawn ringd actor and two childs that access same ringbuf through ringd.
+# 
+#     Both will use `ringd.open_ringbuf` to allocate the ringbuf, then attach to
+#     them as sender and receiver.
+# 
+#     '''
+#     async def main():
+#         async with (
+#             tractor.open_nursery(
+#                 loglevel='info',
+#                 # debug_mode=True,
+#                 # enable_stack_on_sig=True
+#             ) as an,
+# 
+#             ringd.open_ringd()
+#         ):
+#             recv_portal = await an.start_actor(
+#                 'recv',
+#                 enable_modules=[__name__]
+#             )
+#             send_portal = await an.start_actor(
+#                 'send',
+#                 enable_modules=[__name__]
+#             )
+# 
+#             async with (
+#                 recv_portal.open_context(subscriber_child) as (rctx, _),
+#                 rctx.open_stream() as recv_stream,
+#                 send_portal.open_context(publisher_child) as (sctx, _),
+#                 sctx.open_stream() as send_stream,
+#             ):
+#                 async def send_wait_ack(msg: bytes):
+#                     await recv_stream.send(msg)
+#                     ack = await recv_stream.receive()
+#                     assert ack == b'ack'
+# 
+#                     await send_stream.send(msg)
+#                     ack = await send_stream.receive()
+#                     assert ack == b'ack'
+# 
+#                 async def add_channel(name: str):
+#                     await send_wait_ack(AddChannelMsg(name=name).encode())
+# 
+#                 async def remove_channel(name: str):
+#                     await send_wait_ack(RemoveChannelMsg(name=name).encode())
+# 
+#                 async def send_range(start: int, end: int):
+#                     await send_wait_ack(RangeMsg(start=start, end=end).encode())
+#                     range_ack = await recv_stream.receive()
+#                     assert range_ack == b'valid range'
+# 
+#                 # simple test, open one channel and send 0..100 range
+#                 ring_name = 'ring-first'
+#                 await add_channel(ring_name)
+#                 await send_range(0, 100)
+#                 await remove_channel(ring_name)
+# 
+#                 # redo
+#                 ring_name = 'ring-redo'
+#                 await add_channel(ring_name)
+#                 await send_range(0, 100)
+#                 await remove_channel(ring_name)
+# 
+#                 # multi chan test
+#                 ring_names = []
+#                 for i in range(3):
+#                     ring_names.append(f'multi-ring-{i}')
+# 
+#                 for name in ring_names:
+#                     await add_channel(name)
+# 
+#                 await send_range(0, 300)
+# 
+#                 for name in ring_names:
+#                     await remove_channel(name)
+# 
+#             await an.cancel()
+# 
+#     trio.run(main)
diff --git a/tractor/ipc/_ringbuf/_ringd.py b/tractor/ipc/_ringbuf/_ringd.py
index 16314c72..24c3e530 100644
--- a/tractor/ipc/_ringbuf/_ringd.py
+++ b/tractor/ipc/_ringbuf/_ringd.py
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ from pathlib import Path
 from contextlib import (
     asynccontextmanager as acm
 )
+from dataclasses import dataclass
 
 import trio
 import tractor
@@ -42,12 +43,41 @@ log = tractor.log.get_logger(__name__)
 # log = tractor.log.get_console_log(level='info')
 
 
+class RingNotFound(Exception):
+    ...
+
+
 _ringd_actor_name = 'ringd'
 _root_key = _ringd_actor_name + f'-{os.getpid()}'
-_rings: dict[str, RBToken] = {}
+
+
+@dataclass
+class RingInfo:
+    token: RBToken
+    creator: str
+    unlink: trio.Event()
+
+
+_rings: dict[str, RingInfo] = {}
+
+
+def _maybe_get_ring(name: str) -> RingInfo | None:
+    if name in _rings:
+        return _rings[name]
+
+    return None
+
+
+def _insert_ring(name: str, info: RingInfo):
+    _rings[name] = info
+
+
+def _destroy_ring(name: str):
+    del _rings[name]
 
 
 async def _attach_to_ring(
+    ringd_pid: int,
     ring_name: str
 ) -> RBToken:
     actor = tractor.current_actor()
@@ -56,7 +86,7 @@ async def _attach_to_ring(
     sock_path = str(
         Path(tempfile.gettempdir())
         /
-        f'{os.getpid()}-pass-ring-fds-{ring_name}-to-{actor.name}.sock'
+        f'ringd-{ringd_pid}-{ring_name}-to-{actor.name}.sock'
     )
 
     log.info(f'trying to attach to ring {ring_name}...')
@@ -94,8 +124,12 @@ async def _pass_fds(
     sock_path: str
 ):
     global _rings
+    info = _maybe_get_ring(name)
 
-    token = _rings[name]
+    if not info:
+        raise RingNotFound(f'Ring \"{name}\" not found!')
+
+    token = info.token
 
     async with send_fds(token.fds, sock_path):
         log.info(f'connected to {sock_path} for fd passing')
@@ -109,48 +143,58 @@ async def _pass_fds(
 @tractor.context
 async def _open_ringbuf(
     ctx: tractor.Context,
+    caller: str,
     name: str,
+    buf_size: int = 10 * 1024,
     must_exist: bool = False,
-    buf_size: int = 10 * 1024
 ):
     global _root_key, _rings
+    log.info(f'maybe open ring {name} from {caller}, must_exist = {must_exist}')
+
+    info = _maybe_get_ring(name)
+
+    if info:
+        log.info(f'ring {name} exists, {caller} attached')
+
+        await ctx.started(os.getpid())
 
-    teardown = trio.Event()
-    async def _teardown_listener(task_status=trio.TASK_STATUS_IGNORED):
         async with ctx.open_stream() as stream:
-            task_status.started()
             await stream.receive()
-            teardown.set()
 
-    log.info(f'maybe open ring {name}, must_exist = {must_exist}')
+        info.unlink.set()
 
-    token = _rings.get(name, None)
+        log.info(f'{caller} detached from ring {name}')
 
-    async with trio.open_nursery() as n:
-        if token:
-            log.info(f'ring {name} exists')
-            await ctx.started()
-            await n.start(_teardown_listener)
-            await teardown.wait()
-            return
+        return
 
-        if must_exist:
-            raise FileNotFoundError(
-                f'Tried to open_ringbuf but it doesn\'t exist: {name}'
+    if must_exist:
+        raise RingNotFound(
+            f'Tried to open_ringbuf but it doesn\'t exist: {name}'
+        )
+
+    with ringbuf.open_ringbuf(
+        _root_key + name,
+        buf_size=buf_size
+    ) as token:
+        unlink_event = trio.Event()
+        _insert_ring(
+            name,
+            RingInfo(
+                token=token,
+                creator=caller,
+                unlink=unlink_event,
             )
+        )
+        log.info(f'ring {name} created by {caller}')
+        await ctx.started(os.getpid())
 
-        with ringbuf.open_ringbuf(
-            _root_key + name,
-            buf_size=buf_size
-        ) as token:
-            _rings[name] = token
-            log.info(f'ring {name} created')
-            await ctx.started()
-            await n.start(_teardown_listener)
-            await teardown.wait()
-            del _rings[name]
+        async with ctx.open_stream() as stream:
+            await stream.receive()
 
-    log.info(f'ring {name} destroyed')
+        await unlink_event.wait()
+        _destroy_ring(name)
+
+    log.info(f'ring {name} destroyed by {caller}')
 
 
 @acm
@@ -174,22 +218,28 @@ async def wait_for_ringd() -> tractor.Portal:
 
 @acm
 async def open_ringbuf(
+
     name: str,
+    buf_size: int = 10 * 1024,
+
     must_exist: bool = False,
-    buf_size: int = 10 * 1024
+
 ) -> RBToken:
+    actor = tractor.current_actor()
     async with (
         wait_for_ringd() as ringd,
+
         ringd.open_context(
             _open_ringbuf,
+            caller=actor.name,
             name=name,
-            must_exist=must_exist,
-            buf_size=buf_size
-        ) as (rd_ctx, _),
-        rd_ctx.open_stream() as stream,
+            buf_size=buf_size,
+            must_exist=must_exist
+        ) as (rd_ctx, ringd_pid),
+
+        rd_ctx.open_stream() as _stream,
     ):
-        token = await _attach_to_ring(name)
+        token = await _attach_to_ring(ringd_pid, name)
         log.info(f'attached to {token}')
         yield token
-        await stream.send(b'bye')
 
diff --git a/tractor/linux/_fdshare.py b/tractor/linux/_fdshare.py
index c632f532..16a748b8 100644
--- a/tractor/linux/_fdshare.py
+++ b/tractor/linux/_fdshare.py
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ Reimplementation of multiprocessing.reduction.sendfds & recvfds, using acms and
 cpython impl:
 https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/275056a7fdcbe36aaac494b4183ae59943a338eb/Lib/multiprocessing/reduction.py#L138
 '''
+import os
 import array
 from typing import AsyncContextManager
 from contextlib import asynccontextmanager as acm
@@ -73,6 +74,7 @@ async def send_fds(fds: list[int], sock_path: str) -> AsyncContextManager[None]:
 
     conn.close()
     sock.close()
+    os.unlink(sock_path)
 
 
 async def recv_fds(sock_path: str, amount: int) -> tuple: